"Then it is dark; a night where kings in golden suits ride elephants over the mountains." - John Cheever

Sunday, April 23, 2006

Monkeys

http://www.ernestcline.com/dmd/ Good or a bit trite? I quite liked it. The music that comes in is "Music for a Found Harmonium" by the Penguin Cafe Orchestra btw.

8 comments:

Tom said...

Yes, quite the music but not crazy about the chat. Would have probably hailed it as the gospel twelve years ago, but now it just seems like a sub-Vonnegut rant about the inanity of the human condition. It's all true of course.

phaemon said...

APES ARE NOT MONKEYS!!

;-)

john said...

Monkeys lack the dignity of apes, so I think the guy was using poetic license to some degree.

Good point though. I'm ashamed to say I can't remember the difference between apes and monkeys. A bifurcation in the ancestral tree NNNNNN years ago of course but in what manner?

Tom said...

Yes, my evolutionary history is hazy as well. Apes are not monkeys, but are monkeys apes?

Colin said...

Apes don't have tails. Doesn't answer your question, but still. I once read that there should really only be a few hundred thousand human beings, based on other ape populations - but by some weird quirk there ended up being billions of us.

john said...

"Somewhere between 30 and 20 MYA the Old World primates divided into two separate superfamilies, the Cercopithecoidea (Old World monkeys - Africa and Asia), and the Hominoidea (apes)." Says Wikipedia.

phaemon said...

Well, I added the smiley cos I was deliberately missing the whole point of the thing, but it was difficult to listen to without at least thinking, "Apes, not monkeys, APES!"

Also, other animals get happy, sad, stressed too, so it's not even that accurate there. Kind of strikes me like a "Why are they called hamburgers when they have no ham?!" type thing. More amusing if you don't know the answer, I suppose.

Oh, and yeah, as wikipedia says, monkeys and apes are both primates.

john said...

yeah AND there's a bit about them being cursed with consciousness. i reckon most animals with reasonably large brains and nervous systems are conscious.